Dahlia and Chindrastan Place Names Appeal

Dahlia and Chindrastan © Henry Hyde 2017

The sub-continent of Dahlia and Chindrastan, created for the forthcoming book Wargaming Campaigns to be published by Pen & Sword in 2018. ©Henry Hyde 2017.

 

This is my new, imaginary sub-continent of Dahlia and Chindrastan. I have created it for forthcoming wargaming campaigns, but it also forms a critical part of my next book for Pen & Sword, because I have been describing in words and pictures precisely how I have created it.

But now the time has come for you, my friends, to play a part.

You will see on the map that there are little black squares. These are cities. And for every one of those, more detailed, ‘zoomed-in’ versions of the map will show that there are dozens of smaller towns and villages. Each of the squares is 100 miles across!

In due course, every single one of these places will require a name. Initially, they will be needed as opposing forces explore the map, probably making landings on the coast and exploring up the major rivers, trading and fighting with the indigenous population living along the banks, but gradually heading further into the interior.

So, based on a conversation I had with a friend a while ago, I am ‘crowdsourcing’ ideas for place names. You can submit as many as you like, but they need to sound as though they originated in the sub-continent, which of course is vaguely reminiscent of India/Pakistan/Afghanistan/Bangladesh, but also perhaps a little Indonesian in that island range up in the north-east.

The names need to be fictitious, though they could of course be based on Hindi, Urdu or other ‘real world’ languages. They could be funny or serious, or even a bit naughty, but not downright filthy as that might offend any readers who actually speak those languages!

For your guidance, the equator is at the bottom of the map and you’ll see another line near the vertical centre indicating “The Tropic of the Goat”. Climate-wise, therefore, the southern parts will likely be very hot and wet, becoming hot and dry as you head north, and the very northern edge is akin to the Himalayas.

So, get your thinking hats on and comment below with your suggestions. Any that are used will earn you a mention in the book! (I hope to have quite a long list of names in the acknowledgements.) You can be specific about which part of the map you think your suggestions suit, or just crank out some random silly place names – I really don’t mind!

Join in the fun!

P.S. Before anyone else sends me stuff written in non-Arabic scripts, please ensure that the names are written Anglicised, as they sound – I don’t want to have to deal with all sorts of unusual fonts on my maps and names that nobody can read!

P.P.S. The names can be based on foods, drinks, brand names, Bollywood, anything you like… This is entirely fictitious!

P.P.P.S. Please don’t give me advice about how to create place names. I’ve been doing that for decades! I’m asking you to participate by contributing a few names of your own as a fun way for you to be part of the project. If you can’t be bothered, that’s fine, move along!

 

Update 6th September 2017: the suggestions box for place names is now closed. Thank you to everyone who contributed and, as promised, if your place names are featured on the final map, your name will be recorded in the book.

74 comments for “Dahlia and Chindrastan Place Names Appeal

  1. David Crook
    September 2, 2017 at 9:14 pm

    My pleasure old chap! Let me know if it makes the cut.

  2. September 2, 2017 at 7:51 pm

    What fun! Just listened to The Veteran Wargamer podcast. Here’s my 6.

    Adhika-Kamatar (means “Greater-Lesser”) and the rival sister city
    Kamatar-Adihika
    Yahaan (means “here”)
    Laal Kila (Red Fort)
    Prapata (Cliff)
    Basa (Enough!)

  3. September 2, 2017 at 3:47 am

    Tanay Dabara
    ‘Aql Aw Hanar
    Waar
    Pushtanah / Pukhtanah
    Bashpar Jarg
    Marastay
    Pattay

    • henryhyde
      September 2, 2017 at 5:04 pm

      thanks for your input, John!

  4. David Crook
    September 1, 2017 at 5:36 pm

    Hi Henry,

    I am thinking that Disimla may be a good name for a hill station…..(actually a lowland fortification may be more appropriate).

    All the best,

    DC

    • henryhyde
      September 2, 2017 at 5:05 pm

      Hah! I like it! Thanks David!

  5. David Pike
    September 1, 2017 at 3:20 pm

    I like sandwiches and burgers so…

    Sangerabad
    Sarniapur
    Buttutta
    Macarabad

    • henryhyde
      September 1, 2017 at 3:22 pm

      Thanks David!

  6. August 27, 2017 at 8:17 pm

    Henry
    If it is a country or continent called Dahlia, there should at least be one place or even air base called Roald in your new map of Dahl-ia. Another place called BeeEffGee, Charlee (where there is an excellent chocolate factory) and so on and so on …
    And a place or desert continent called Tarka which is a little otter than Dahlia.
    Mark, Man of TIN

    • henryhyde
      August 27, 2017 at 11:36 pm

      Thanks for yoir thoughts, Mark!

      • September 3, 2017 at 8:18 am

        Not forgetting the hideous architecture of Eyesore.

        • henryhyde
          September 3, 2017 at 5:57 pm

          How could we possibly forget?

  7. PatG
    August 27, 2017 at 5:04 pm

    Pushmeerga and their sworn enemies on the other side of the valley, the Pullaheen

    Hastim, Preenkeps, and Trya, descendants of a long lost legion.

    Ghorkhal – home to a fierce mountain tribe with poor dental health and an unusual skin tone.

    The protofascist coastal villages of Djatsalfulks, Djatswrong and Djatsreich

    Potiala know for their fine cuisine and Ewing system monorail.

    The village of Tamiltubbil known for its unusual headdresses; bright, primary coloured clothing, and pink haversacks

    Poumfreckt An independent trading canton established by European socialists to help the oppressed locals via an ethically grown, fair trade licorice coop farm.

    New Dahli – a populous city known for its unusual artistic style.

    Bunbay or Bunbai, known locally as Mumspie – excellent baked goods

    Wahzooristan – at the headwaters of the Wahzoo river, the very last outpost of civilization.

    Afghanada (courtesy of the Canadian Broadcast Corporation) A cold and snowy but very polite village.

    Candaharharhar A small place with a smaller sense of humour. I may be reaching now.

    • PatG
      August 27, 2017 at 10:23 pm

      Asterbygin – one of the few teetotalling villages, they feel it necessary to make up for the deficiencies of their neighbours. Also know for growing and arranging flowers.

      Swot in the Swot valley – known for having a higher than average level of education

      Xanadoom – Characterized by elaborate mating rituals set to a music with a snappy dance beat. Also the centre of a Thugee like cult.

      Prawnpore – a coastal fishing village.

      Simila – just like any other village.

      Mangolore – know for their tree fruit.

      Amysore – half way point on the footy-express mail route

      Goer – know for it’s more prurient exports

      Spamritsar – producer of foods that keep well

      Hydraabad – Centre of snake worship

      • henryhyde
        August 27, 2017 at 11:28 pm

        Thanks Pat,some great stuff here!

    • henryhyde
      August 27, 2017 at 11:31 pm

      You’ve been hard at it! Thanks Pat!

  8. Ernie FOSKER
    August 27, 2017 at 1:27 pm

    How about a play on the most common family name in India: Patel.
    Patellabad
    Patellistan
    Patelapur
    Or incorporating Mahatma Ghandhi:
    Ghandistan
    Ghandiabad
    Ghandiapur
    And for some reason the name ‘Reg’ comes to mind:
    Registan
    Regiabad
    Regipur
    Some of the other offerings are brilliant, by the way ~ love the play on you name, Henry.
    How about using some of the names from Kipling’s ‘Jungle Book’, however I’m not sure what the situation would be re. copyright:
    Mowgliapur
    Mowgliabad
    Bageerastan
    Balooabad
    Balooapur.
    It might be worthwhile incorporating the name ‘SOUTER’ somewhere, especially in the North West Frontier region. Lt SOUTER saved the colours of the 44th Regiment (later 1st Battalion, Essex Regiment) when they were wiped out at Kandamuk in 1842, during the retreat from Kabul (but I’m sure you knew that anyway, sorry).

    • henryhyde
      August 27, 2017 at 3:17 pm

      Thanks Ernie, some great ones there! And I had forgotten about Souter – a nice idea.

  9. August 26, 2017 at 10:09 pm

    How about names from any of the cast of Goodness Gracious Me the BBC 90s comedy series?
    Sanjeev
    Bhaskar
    Meera
    Syal
    Kulvinder
    Ghir
    Nina
    Wadia
    Or any of their comic creations and catch phrases such as Chunky Lafunga (lafunga means “hooligan”) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodness_Gracious_Me_(BBC)

    The other source is food, whilst lots of place names in Britain and elsewhere have given their name to food (cheddar / bakewell / Stilton etc) Reversing this around – what about places named after Indian and Asian food?
    Lamb-badam-pasanda
    Sagaloo
    Aloogobi
    Dimsum etc

    • henryhyde
      August 26, 2017 at 11:13 pm

      Thank you Mark.

  10. Don
    August 26, 2017 at 5:35 pm

    Here are a couple for you, with a bit of history for each:
    SHANKAR – The Black city of the north, has a perhaps unfounded reputation for necromancy due to the fact that not only is it built out of black stone, but even the local woods are dark. In cloudy or otherwise dark northen nights it gives supstance to the word “dark”, and in the winter with all the coal and woodsmoke, it gives meaning to the word “grimy”.

    GOLGAR – The city of the Red Band. When it was built, the Governor’s Palace/Castle was constructuced out of light coloured stone. Except for a band or red granite that went around the walls, form which traitors and other malefactors are hanged in full view of the public.

    • henryhyde
      August 26, 2017 at 5:51 pm

      Thank you for your thoughtful input, Don!

  11. Simon Skinner
    August 26, 2017 at 10:16 am

    I think, given the amount of free roaming cattle there’s likely to be, that there should be at least one Cowpatt (or Kowpatt) per province, probably several.

    • henryhyde
      August 26, 2017 at 10:38 am

      Badoom-tish!

  12. Jim Purky
    August 25, 2017 at 5:29 pm

    Oolong
    Darjeeling
    Chitchat
    Chittibangbang or just Chittibang
    Nuyk Nyuk
    Rootintutin
    Dogmandu
    Seegerpini
    Chicagistan
    Cheeki
    Mandypandi

    • August 25, 2017 at 5:33 pm

      I forgot Purkistan

    • henryhyde
      August 25, 2017 at 8:38 pm

      Thank you Jim, lovely to see you here and approve your suggestions!

  13. Gary Wright
    August 25, 2017 at 12:05 pm

    I’m sure you can squeeze in the city of Randibint ruled by the Khazi himself!

    • henryhyde
      August 25, 2017 at 12:56 pm

      Oh, I imagine some squeezing can be done! Thanks Gary.

  14. Phil Sidnell
    August 25, 2017 at 11:55 am

    How about the famous market town of Costcutta or the infamous fleshpot of Fungalore? The best silk is made by the spinners of Googli, Doosra and Muralitharan (this last being on the island of Lankasri), while Tulwar is famous for its swordsmiths.

    • henryhyde
      August 25, 2017 at 12:55 pm

      Thanks again, Phil. High quality suggestions there!

  15. August 25, 2017 at 8:41 am

    Katpur and its small satellite villages of Kittipur, Puzpur, Ferpur and Lopur. Also, Outalucknow.

    • henryhyde
      August 25, 2017 at 9:46 am

      Thanks Nathan, I like those!

  16. Willum
    August 25, 2017 at 7:46 am

    I thought some of the place names could be based on som of my favourite Indian dishes.

    Daltarkari
    Dahivada
    Kablichanna
    Dahibhindi
    Panirbhujia
    Dhokkardalna
    Baihanbharta
    Aloogobidalna
    Karhi
    Aloodam
    Sadachawal
    Khichuri
    Batora
    Sandesh
    Malpoa
    Payodhi
    KamlaKhir
    Chakerpayesh

    I’ll have to stop now, I’m getting hungry

    • henryhyde
      August 25, 2017 at 9:45 am

      Thank you Willum, an excellent list!

  17. Bill Protz
    August 25, 2017 at 5:18 am

    Hi Henry.
    Goodness what a lovely map. Striking and realistic.
    Below are names, one per letter of the alphabet.
    *****
    Allieam
    Baten
    Carda
    Dunokem
    El Wilyum
    Fristarapour
    Gimkreta
    Hahbelabad
    Ish
    Jade City
    Krishtan
    Lauratana
    Miramani
    Mumpour
    Nan
    Olanbootmarah
    Pombay
    Quenna
    Ramadadabad
    Sanarsi
    Timla
    Ultar
    Vexania
    Wandahar
    Xirdani
    Yangess
    Zataria
    **********
    Best of fortune and satisfaction for your endeavor.
    Cheers and bravos,
    Bill

    • henryhyde
      August 25, 2017 at 9:45 am

      Thank you Bill, I knew I could rely on you!

  18. Gerard Byram
    August 24, 2017 at 11:56 pm

    I can’t think of anything more satisfying than having my own name in a Henry Hyde creation. I propose ‘Byramundi’ as named after a long dead (and probably eaten) missionary!

    • henryhyde
      August 25, 2017 at 12:42 am

      Well, thank you for the compliment Gerard.

  19. David Mathieson
    August 24, 2017 at 9:39 pm

    Hydestan
    Hydestani
    Hydestar
    Hydestari
    Hydeshumi
    Hydeshari
    Hydeskari
    Hydeskan
    Hydepur
    Hydepuri
    Hydelashi
    Hydelas
    Hydemar
    Hydemari
    Hydepur
    Hydepuri
    Hydesharki
    Henrizibar
    Henrisham
    Henrishmari
    Henrizipur
    Henrimumbai
    Henripatul
    Henriachi
    Henribul
    Henrimstar

    • henryhyde
      August 24, 2017 at 9:52 pm

      Hmmm, I think I can see a theme developing here… 😀

  20. James Manto
    August 24, 2017 at 9:34 pm

    Krishnaphur

    • henryhyde
      August 24, 2017 at 9:53 pm

      Yup, thank you.

  21. Noel Williams
    August 24, 2017 at 9:03 pm

    Hi Henry
    Great map.
    I love this kind of stuff, so spent an hour seeing what I could come up with. (some are better than others!) Here goes: Delililah, Hyderagud, Jansniz and Boomzadaizi, Amalaprop, Arrears, Bajpuz, Fizzipopp, Barbi, Sindi, Byerliiv, Chadrak, Chiddi, Andipandi, Chirktael, Dharlejing, Dhamtaxis, Dhambrexit, Bharmait, Dhuxbak, Jagular, Uttarnuunsens, Dhublsiqs, Dhubllupm, Dhummi, Dwaahaahaa, Gobakwuts, Gangriin, Fiqsgrin, Gurdiun, Jammi, Jammink, Jharjam, Jhumpa OR Voolijhumpa, Kalel, Kannotel, Karausell, Kavanus, Kendol (near Barbi), Kriketbatt, Hennite, Lankileks, These three can probably be found near a table mountain: Madatta, Dhormauz, Vaitrabid, Mahlingara, Makrami, Mani, Manivest, Mattamatiqs, Al-legrou, Al-ibai, Mudidijh, Muvinnup, Naggin, Nagidizair, Bananarama, Pyjamarama, Naraparagarama, Nananah, Itwikkit, Nilbimout, Noorduz, Odzanivanz, Pakrat, Palomain, Pattikeik, Panpan, Panpanpan, Kiuutpanda, Pappapoppa, Paadunmi, Paatikeiq, Buutstraaps, Phantazzi, Qqiqq, Qqikli, Rajvarni, Rajisaid, Girgh, Ramallamallallalah, Ip, Rosinosi, Ruperdbehr, Gwari, Salari, Samolstori, Savinryan, Chiisarni, Hahah, Shirdail, Survsup, Shrilli, Appatta, Acuppati, Sidjeims, Sinnaji, Bludonoh, Hastiritreet, Tandhaid, Todalai, Udderdelait, Ainjeldelait, Djellibeen, Vaitvanman, Villiphi

    • henryhyde
      August 24, 2017 at 9:52 pm

      Absolutely fantastic!! Thank you!

  22. Melvyn jenkins welch
    August 24, 2017 at 7:19 pm

    How about:
    Upsi Daisi
    Abercwmgodonlyknows.
    Jaczi
    Kalabar (ruled by the Kharzi).
    Laard
    Doolally Tup
    Klapharm Junction
    Wherethehellawi
    Whatthehellawedoin
    Whatutalkinaboutwillus

    Hope these help

    • henryhyde
      August 24, 2017 at 7:25 pm

      Good ones, Melvyn! Thank you!

      • Melvyn jenkins welch
        September 3, 2017 at 3:04 pm

        I forgot Djelli Bebi and Djelli Bean. 2 towns fighting a bitter war about gelatenous confectionry representing the great God Djelli. The peace loving people of Djelli Belli accept both, resulting in the town being reknowned for their extra large belts.
        Over the hill is the plain of Pringaal, whose people do interesting things with potatoes.
        Along the coast is the town of Baari and its accompanying island. On the island live the terrifying Amazon tribe of the Neesas. Many a man has been paralysed by their warcry of “Oiwatzoccurin”. There are rumours they are cannibals as they have never seem to have salad at any of their celebrations.
        The men of Luvalliboi are famed for their wide shoulders and singing voices.

        It must be time for my medication….Nurse the screens!

        • henryhyde
          September 3, 2017 at 5:57 pm

          Thanks Melvyn, that’s enough now, come and sit in this nice comfy chair over here…

  23. David McClumpha
    August 24, 2017 at 7:17 pm

    Henry, I think the two located at LH & LI are the rival cities of Klack and Mannan.

    • henryhyde
      August 24, 2017 at 7:25 pm

      If you say so, Dave! 😀

  24. James Anderson
    August 24, 2017 at 6:57 pm

    Peelaghar, Bageechaghar, Jahareegupha, Lambashahar, Joradaarshahar

    • henryhyde
      August 24, 2017 at 7:17 pm

      Oh, those are good!

  25. Domesticated Bill
    August 24, 2017 at 6:57 pm

    Kitilyta and Chatdopoo can anyone explain why the spell checker wanted to turn the first one into lithography. I would suggest the first one for a dry sandy area.

    • henryhyde
      August 24, 2017 at 7:17 pm

      Thank you!

  26. Keith Scholes
    August 24, 2017 at 5:46 pm

    To build on Steve’s suggestion could you not build some lists of initial, middle, and endings of Indian sounding names. Then use a random generator (dice if you want to go low tech) to produce variants of these. You would not need all that many, for example 20 of each would give you 8000 names to choose from. You could vary this somewhat by region, for example for mountainous regions in the north use Nepalese style name roots and so forth.

    • henryhyde
      August 24, 2017 at 5:56 pm

      Yes, Keith, I could do that and have already spent decades exploring different ways that *I* can generate names — but the whole point here is to get *you* guys to participate and become part of the history and background to the continent. I didn’t have to get anyone’s advice about how to create names — I just thought this soulful s be a fun idea.

      • Keith Scholes
        August 24, 2017 at 6:11 pm

        I just thought that with several hundreds or thousands of names to create you might want a way to generate some. My apologies if I was raising an idea that had already occurred to you. Please feel free to delete my suggestion.

        • henryhyde
          August 24, 2017 at 6:40 pm

          Don’t worry, Keith – depending on how many suggestions I get, I may indeed go down that sort of path, but initially my aim is to get the wargaming community involved in the creation of this place and, eventually, with luck they may even take part in campaigns at some point. It was always possible for me to do it all myself – though I shudder to think of the additional hours I would be expending – and of course have done so for all the other maps I have created since I started my image-nations folly in 1981.

    • Keith Scholes
      August 24, 2017 at 6:05 pm

      Just to add a few actual suggestions based on one of my favourite film franchises.

      Kalimar
      Pankot
      Sankara
      Indypur

      • henryhyde
        August 24, 2017 at 6:37 pm

        Those are good, thank you! 🙂

  27. James Manto
    August 24, 2017 at 4:15 pm

    Pokhora
    Dari Wada
    Bahji
    Chanamassala

    • henryhyde
      August 25, 2017 at 12:40 am

      Thank you James!

  28. Chris
    August 24, 2017 at 3:37 pm

    Look! I have discovered the mountain of ” Aapakee ongalee bevakooph” simply by pointing at it on a map and asking a local what it is called….

    • henryhyde
      August 25, 2017 at 12:41 am

      Well, if you say so…

  29. Phil Sidnell
    August 24, 2017 at 2:59 pm

    I’d like to nominate Yashvanti as one of the place names. I don’t know what it actually means but it was the name of a particular lizard who played a part in the capture of Kondana Fort by the Marathas in 1670. Yashvanti had a rope tied to him and he scaled the walls then wedged himself in a niche in the sheer rock face, allowing soldiers to climb up from an unexpected direction. He was apparently a Bengal monitor lizard, a species known locally as a Ghorpad, which might make another place name. It was one of my favourite little oddities included in my book.
    Phil Sidnell

    • henryhyde
      August 24, 2017 at 3:07 pm

      Phil! Glad to see you here — You’re a hard man to get hold of! Great suggestion; more please!

  30. Graham Knight
    August 24, 2017 at 1:57 pm

    Puranapur.(Old town) The Khut of Utmalaya.(The bight of Utmalaya) The Pecaviquila. (The I have Scind Fort) Ayhoghiya. (making fun of yoga) Khotla Phallwallahnagar. Small vegetable seller village)
    I think they sound right and a re close enough for Jazz.
    G

    • Graham Knight
      August 24, 2017 at 2:03 pm

      Actually that would be small fruit seller village, as vegetable would be Khotla Subjiwallahnagar.
      I always likes the village on the otherside of the Marg from me – Khotla Mubarakpur – Little Happy Town, and I used to work in Sundar Nagar – the beautiful village.
      G

    • henryhyde
      August 24, 2017 at 2:04 pm

      Ooh, good stuff, Graham! Thank you.

    • henryhyde
      August 24, 2017 at 1:53 pm

      Yes, it is. As I said in paragraph 6, “The names need to be fictitious”.

      • Steve the Wargamer
        August 24, 2017 at 3:09 pm

        …add “apur” or “utta” or “ata” on the end in a random sequence then????? Nah – my apologies – thought I might be cheating….. :o))

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